1964 Hydrodyne

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  1. 1964 dyne

    1964 dyne Hydrodyner

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    69 dyne FT,64 Dyne 18, 02 Moomba, 87 Supra Comp
    This is my Dad's baby. He bought it in September of 1965 for $1800. Everything is original short of the fresh outboard... Seats, pylon, trailer, floor, transom, lights, everything. I think we still have the original cover somewhere...

    This hull is so light it practically jumpes out of the water with this 150.. It runs circles around my cousin's 88 dyne with a 200 yamaha..

    This year it starts pulling its third generation of skiers... My dad was skiing on it in the 60s and beyond.. my sister and I started in the early 70s and our kids are starting this year... we had a 3 yr old up this past weeked.

    No raised floor, never had one... no windshield and no skag.. never will...

    The first motor was traded in, but the 1969 hundred horse straight six is in the shed and runs like a top.
     

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  2. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    I just realized that there are two of you that have the same screen name, and very similar boats. Yours has a space in it and his does not. That is a pretty boat. the deck looks like it is plywood. Is it?

    jim
     
  3. 1964 dyne

    1964 dyne Hydrodyner

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    Yeah... I saw his 64 dyne and was surprised to see how different it was.

    Yep... the deck is plywood.
     
  4. 1964 dyne

    1964 dyne Hydrodyner

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    Here is a couple more pictures from last weekend.

    Some notes... you will notice the lack of a raise floor.

    The gas tanks have always been in the rear.. Originally it had 2 - 6 gallon tanks you would take in and out to fill.. we put in an on board tank, but still in the rear. under the front deck is completely empty.

    The red carpet is something we take in and out to keep things clean and keep ski equipment from bouncing around.

    That is the original pylon, seats, sterring wheel, deck light etc.. that came with the boat in 1964. The stern light used to be on the pylon, but we took it off and put the plug in the rear deck.

    I'll see if I can get a picture with it on its original Tiny Trailer.
     

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  5. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    That is every thing a Hydrodyne should be. I like the legroom. You get my vote for boat of the month.

    jim
     
  6. plantman

    plantman Established Hydrodyner

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    GREAT BOAT!!!! :yahoo:

    Same year/model as mine!!!!

    I do recall when I joined this site I was told that it could not be a 64 becouse it would be too early for that model. Glad to see someone else has the same thing same year!

    That boat is everything a boat should be!
     
  7. 1964 dyne

    1964 dyne Hydrodyner

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    So i haven't posted here in awhile and just for fun was back on the site yesterday looking at different threads...

    I see 2 other boats in here stating about the same year.. 1964..

    This one.. which I question based on the transom and width of dome on deck.. I think later than 1964
    viewtopic.php?f=23&t=157

    and this one.. which I can't find many pics of.. but it has the same deck as mine.. indication of prototype.. I would love to see more pics of this.
    viewtopic.php?f=23&t=456

    So then I find this thread indicating early construction processes... fascinating..
    viewtopic.php?f=12&t=451&hilit=prototype

    the comments about racing, seats with no cushions, plywood boxes for seat bases, deck construction, floor construction.. that all lines up with our boat.

    which he states as a prototype.. interesting...so I started to think about this and wonder based on the Hull ID what exactly did my dad buy in 1965... its a 1964 he bought from Dennis Brucks ... in the Appleton/Oshkosh area.. Dennis had only owned it about 3 months prior to my dad buying and I think Dennis bought it for racing... pretty sure ours didn't even have a ski pylon.. my Dad put that into the boat so he could ski.

    so i find this thread on Hull ID...
    viewtopic.php?f=23&t=858&hilit=prototype&start=10

    problem with that is our Hull ID is nothing like that... we would be thrilled to know what our Hull ID / Serial number indicates if anyone can answer...

    The Hull ID of our 1964 Dyne is D6402114
    Its not molded in the transom or anything.. its stamped on an aluminum plate.

    I see posts from Ab, Bev and other Crosby folks.. hope someone could respond..

    Thanks in advance for any comments or info.
     
  8. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    I think it would be wrong to assume that all 64's or 65's are the same.

    According to one of the discussions that you mention, there were only 10 plywood deck 18's built.

    The real question in my mind is when was the first glass deck 18 built with the larger bubble deck. It could have been 64 or later.

    jim
     
  9. 1964 dyne

    1964 dyne Hydrodyner

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    Right... I would agree.. i wasn't trying to dis anyones facts.. just trying to figure this out.. is it safe to state that the plywood deck boats have the smaller bubble??.

    I know ours is plywood and I thought the other boat that was indicated as Prototype was indicated to be plywood..

    It would be interesting to know if that 64/66 has a plywood deck... the transom looks exactly the same as ours but the motor well is shaped different... also his comment about not having a skag and nver did certainly points it to a very early boat.

    That TX IO boat certainly has some similar features as well including the non padded seats.

    Also.. right after I posted this.. dad corrected me.. sounds like Dennis bought it some time in 1964.. used it the summer of 64 and 65 and dad bought it in the fall of 65... never raced it though..
     
  10. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    When dealing with the Dyne 18, I don't think any conclusions can be drawn about the characteristics of any given model. I think we can safely say that we know of two plywood deck boats with small bubble decks. I have seen pictures of many different configurations on this site. It would not surprise me to find one with no bubble. I have seen pictures of boats that looked like that.

    I think it is good to keep in mind that this is not a production line boat. They were all hand laid and many were built to the customers wishes. A lot of different hardware shows up. There are several floor configurations. There seems to be no standard for the position of the red and blue stripe.

    Many of the the early boats (60's) did not have skegs. There are three deck configurations that I know of. The plywood deck, the first glass deck with the big splash well, and the present built up aft deck with the integral ski pole. My boat has a modified aft deck that does not look like any of the production boats.

    The un-padded seats were used in many of the early boats. There is a brochure in the media section that show one. The hulls with the raised floor were built in the 70's the best I can tell. Some of the early boats have had a raised floor added later.

    I have always wondered about the racing claims because the hull is so slow. It is a high drag soft chine design that was outdated as a race boat when the boats were new. It does make a very strong ski boat because of all of the compound curves in the hull.

    These are just my opinions. The differences and the intrigue in the company history make it more interesting.

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    jim
     

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