Sticky Carpet

Discussion in 'Restoration Projects & Questions' started by markbano, May 20, 2007.

  1. markbano

    markbano Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    If anyone on line today has any tips for me, the timing would be perfect.

    I'm working on carpet today. Hydrodyners member "Timsprandel" is coming by as well. I'm looking forward to meeting Tim and maybe working on the carpet a bit.

    Jim - any tips on this?

    Here's where I'm at so far...

    In the second picture you'll see the smartcraft guage which has been installed in the center in place of the hour meter (there's an hour meter built into the smartcraft system anyway...).
     

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  2. markbano

    markbano Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    OK

    In case it seems I'm moving too slowly, I will point out that at least I did get the registration stickers on.... Confused
     

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  3. jim

    jim Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    I have never done carpet except on trailer bunks. I used contact cement for that.

    I had mine professionally done and he did a lousy job. I'm sure you will do better.

    jim
     
  4. kevinb

    kevinb Elite Hydrodyner

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    Hi Mark:

    I've carpeted two dynes in the past five years and both turned out great. Jim's right, you want to use neopreme contact cement (2 to 3 quarts). I used a 4-inch foam roller to spread out the glue and a "J" roller to push out and stretch the carpet (a pic of J roller is attached). Worked from the transom to the base of the ledge and contour cut the front of the ledge/bulkhead even with the floor. Also worked from the centerline of the boat out. Laid a smaller section in by the feet infront of the bulkhead and worked from the base of the ledge bulkhead to the next bulkhead; from the centerline out. Leave 3 to 4-inches of excess if you have it for trimming if need be on the sides and base of bulkhead. better a little long than short.

    Good luck,

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  5. markbano

    markbano Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    Kevin

    That sounds great. Where do I get a J roller?

    I glued in the area just around the bilge and stopped for the day. I've got about the first 18 inches glued as of now. (picture attached)

    I am using a product called Roberts Max 3300 premium multi-purpose carpet and sheet vynyl adhisive. This is what they told me to use for the outdoor carpet I used on the trailer bunks. Should I not use this for the carpet in the boat?

    Where do I get the adhesive you recommended? How much will I need?

    How do you do the seam going up the hull on either side of the area where it stepts down to the footwell. If you cut at the base of the footwell bulkhead you must need a seam going up the sides about where the throttle is and on the same spot on the other side. Is there any particular way to do the seams?

    Sorry for all the questions. Thanks for the help!

    MarkBano
     

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  6. kevinb

    kevinb Elite Hydrodyner

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    Hi Mark:

    I purchased the contact cement at Kendor Marine near south Milwaukee (west of 94 on Ryan Road and 55th?). The contact cement you have sounds right, its commonly used to glue down linolium (spelling?) conter tops. Is the stuff you are using neoprene based?

    I brought a gallon of adhesive when I did my boat and ended up with 1/3 of a gallon left over. I think 2 quarts would do it but I'd have a 3rd on hand just in case.

    I borrowed a J roller from a friend of mine in the construction trades; it is also used for rolling out air pockets under linolium contour top material. If you google J roller, you will get a bunch of hits. I don't know if Home Depot or Lowes sells them but the contractor stores do.

    My boat is in the drive under cover but will try and climb under to get a couple shots of the seams you spoke of.

    Kevin-
     
  7. kevinb

    kevinb Elite Hydrodyner

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    Mark:

    Attached are a couple of pictures of the seam and the bulkhead cut. If you leave a flap that is an inch longer than the deepest point in the foot well, its just a matter of cutting the carpet even with the floor. As I recall, I had the larger piece of carpet all squared (cut to be vertical) and used a straight edge to cut in the smaller footwell carpet. I left a little extra (mayme a 1/4 inch) and worked it in with the roller to provide a tight butt joint. The joints are pretty well hidden by the seats if they dont go as well as planned.

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  8. markbano

    markbano Hydrodyne 18 Specialist

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    Can't thank you enough for the pictures. HUGE help. Yours looks great. I can barely see a seam going up right where I figured I'd need one. So did you wrap the carpet down and do your cut along the bottom of the footwell at the base of the bulkead and then just run a straight cut up the side of the hull right at the end of the floor? That's what it looks like in the pictures. I hope I can get my seams that good. I really appreciate you taking the time to post some photos for me - makes all the difference in the world.

    Best,

    Mark
     
  9. dynegreg1

    dynegreg1 King Dyner

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    Mark,

    Look at some of the photos from my boat that I posted. I ended the carpet where the footwell started, and made a cut there. I then did a vertical piece on the footwell. I then capped over the 90 degree area with a piece of aluminum meant for stair edging. I believe I picked up the piece from Home Depot. I then screwed it down with stainless screws. Totally hides the cut, and looks super trick.

    Greg
     
  10. dynegreg1

    dynegreg1 King Dyner

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    P.S. Nice edging around the base of your fiberglass. Wink Looks good. Glad it worked out for you.

    Greg
     

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