Also, should mention, Malibu and others have developed a wedge which creates the desired amplitude for the wake height that would not be attainable with a HD 18 or 20 without a lot of modifications.
I should mention that Dean and Roger (Roger aka twinrig is Dean's brother and both have hydrodynes) are long time HD contacts of mine (we go back to 1999 for our first launch of the 75 I/O on Gages Lake, IL) so my comments are really dirrected to them but good info all the same.
One of those big wake, big tower, big speaker, boats comes by here once in a while. What they are best at is beach erosion.
Hi Jim; Not a big fan of wakeboarding or the wake board crowd. they can trash a lake with rollers in a couple passes. On the water I like to "slice and dice" with a SL ski in a course or open water, and on snow, the same with a pair of SL skis on variable terrain. The wake boarding crowd "is" the snow board crowd up here in WI in the summer/winter. Both come with the same weird lack-or-respect additude. For SL skiing, we typically will work a shoreline and set down on each end to let things settle down, where the wake boarders do circles and turn a lake into a washtub. Best to get out early in the am. The reality is, however that wakeboarders and snowboarders have a tremendous market share in the watersports and snowsports industries so they can not be ignored. I've ways liked the sticker that read "Slalom skiing, if it were easy, they'd call it wakeboarding." Dean and Roger are/were footers but the younger crowd seems to have a diffrent compass. Kevin-
I have never used a wakeboard or the snow equivalent. I am an old school water and snow skier. Large wakes piss me off. They erode my beach and make all my boats bounce around when moored at the dock. Why cant they just go out to the middle of the lake and do they're thing? I am not against wakeboarders but some consideration has to come in to play. Same with jetskiis. I remember when the lake was a solitude of silence until the jets came.
As you can see by the decal on the front of my tunnel hull go fast boat, we share the same feelings about jet skis.
I like the decal Bob. I know there are some snowmachine folks out there on this site so no offense but the jet-skis are snowmachines on water. My Hydrodynes that I have owned don't put up a wake but when towing skiers, have had a few words with the aforementioned and the safety issues with runing a wake while a person is in tow. KTB
Disappointing to see most of you guys' experience with wake-boarders has been negative. Around here, I see just as much if not more dock buzzing, recklessness, and rudeness out of the die-hard slalom folk as the wake folk. Regardless, it's the person behind the wheel and not the boat that causes your problems. I'm a do-it-all person though (barefoot, slalom, wakeboard, surf, sky-ski, show ski, whatever) so my boat was chosen to best suit all those disciplines. A nice talk with other operators can often clue them in if they're doing something wrong (i.e. too close to docks, shore, boats, etc.), and will typically make yours and their time on the water a better experience. You guys must really hate the wake-surf crowd, as they can drop waves that put the typical wakeboard wake to shame (and they're only running at 11 mph typically). Back on topic, Dean, your dyne would be fine for your grandson to do some wakeboarding on, but like I mentioned above, I'd go with an extended pylon. You'd be surprised how well shaped the wake can be with the motor trimmed up and (if you desire) some weight added. Guys on our team can do plenty of inverts off the dyne wakes. The fact that the dyne's get on plane quick will be beneficial for your speed holding as well, as your typical outboard or i/o is terrible for trying to hold wake speed, as it's typically right between the plane/plow point.
A wake tower was a first thought but lots of reinforcements would be needed might even have to tie the side into the floor