1977 Hydrodyne Tournament Skier 18 OB Rebuild

Discussion in 'Hydrodyne® Boats' started by barefootrocker, Dec 15, 2014.

  1. kevinb

    kevinb Elite Hydrodyner

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    Hey tj309:

    I have met DyneBob and he is a stand up guy, he is not "poking you in the eye" about your build cost but likely curious about the volume amount and expense for his future projects, or just the weight aspect from the original construction. We are not a vindictive community.

    Some go the extra mile to get to the current boat construction stds (all composite for Malibu, CC, and MS) and others bring them back as they were originally constructed by Hydrodyne for less $$ in materials, but both rebuilds will serve the purpose in the end for years, if stored properly.

    Lastly, please keep this community family-oriented and rated "G" (as in no foul language), I do not want to see your progress or posts deleated for the aforementioned reasons nor would others. It really is not constructive and we need the information exchange to continue on a neutral tone to make this a success for your project and everyone elses in the end.


    Thanks for sharing your re-build experience and Happy New Years,

    Kevin-
     
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  2. tj309

    tj309 Composite Specialist

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    Kevin - I did not take DyneBobs post as a poke and apologize if my post came off that way. This is by no means a vindictive community which is why I love posting here. Happy NY all.
     
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  3. timsprandel

    timsprandel Elite Hydrodyner

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    I own a tired out 1967 18' Dyne that is going to be my "baptism". Fortunately, Mark Banovetz and DyneBob live nearby. Not that I will become a bother to either gentleman, but in a bind, their combined knowledge of Dynes makes my paltry amount of knowledge grovel in the dust. I am currently between jobs, but this is only temporary. The pre-1970 boats did not have raised floors. This will prove interesting to restore. I have a couple of ideas about ways to mount the seat bolts rather than screwing them into the balsa. Two owners prior to me, the gent decided to glass in a large sheet of treated plywood to keep the floor rigid. The resin never saturated the plywood and the wood is still in position. It has mush for a transom although there is an aluminum plate to keep the transom rigid and it had been drilled for twins. It may have been a boat from Sea World since it came from California.
    I can't wait.
     
  4. tj309

    tj309 Composite Specialist

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    Tim welcome back to posting. It sound like you are going to do a major.
     
  5. timsprandel

    timsprandel Elite Hydrodyner

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    That's the hope. My wife has stated in no uncertain terms that our garage at home is only for cars; not for boats. While I vehemently disagree with her viewpoint, admittedly seeing any part of her 2012 maroon Acura TL sustain any type of "change" such as the dust from sanding fiberglass or any part of a resin/roving combination migrating on to any part of her car would be grounds for dismissal from probably more than just the garage. The woman will never pull a punch. Case in point, one of the more recent rides out in Lake Michigan. I was attempting to determine how the 1990 Johnson GT 200 was accelerating in a southwesterly 10" chop with a stiff breeze. Kimberly became so upset that her right fist began trying to take divots out of my left shoulder. For crying out loud, I was just getting warmed up. She honestly thought I was trying to do her in.
    TJ, you will find that your 175 is more than enough power to have the bugs smashed well into your teeth. My 200 has a stainless Michigan Wheel 14.25"x 19" pitch prop on it. Due to some basic low voltage ills, my tach only showed 1800 rpm, however, there was no doubt that it was turning much closer to 6000 rpm. One of the Manitowish Waters Skiing Skeeters swears by the 150 vs. the 200. His thought is that the short stroke of the 150 runs up to max rpm faster than the 200.
    The plan includes bringing the '67 back to life, placing that on hold, then replacing the floor, foam, and transom in my 1978. Tom Miller figured it would take about $4000-$4500 to do it at Fiberglass Products And Repair in Indiana. The difference being that Mr. Miller sets the hull back in the mold to support the shape of the hull thus preventing hooks and other serious maladies. Since the point of restoring the '67 is to learn to work on glass, I can save myself a bunch of money by doing the labor myself. Picking up the resin, hardener, and other supplies will not be a problem since I have the hazmat endorsement on my CDL and Wisconsin isn't too far away. Hopefully this will all coalesce into a couple of fun Dynes that will last longer than myself. Both hulls need the wood replaced in the hull/deck joint.

    Am I correct in remembering that the Hodags were based in Tomahawk, Wisconsin? The Min-Aqua Bats used to hold a multiple team event back in the '70's and the Hodags were a part of it. The invitational has not happened in a long time.
     
  6. tj309

    tj309 Composite Specialist

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    No the Hodags were from Rhinelander. I was with the club when we went to Minaqua and did joint shows at their site. The party afterwards was a doozie!
     
  7. timsprandel

    timsprandel Elite Hydrodyner

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    When were you active in the Hodags?
     
  8. tj309

    tj309 Composite Specialist

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    Yes I was with them for 4 years. Some of the best times of my life. I believe it was 73 thru 77.
     
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  9. timsprandel

    timsprandel Elite Hydrodyner

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    Were the Hodags using the state of the art Hydrodyne Tournament Skier 18's? During one of those storied multi-team shows I recall there being a nutty guy who had painted "Hi Mom!" On the bottom of his jump skis. He would be nearly dipping his left shoulder in the excellent waters of the Aqua-Bowl on his cut then at what seemed faster than any speeding bullet I have ever seen hits the ramp. As he clears the top of the ramp, he does (did) a twist to let the spectators read the message.. It may be an old trick. It did not look easy. I have a book on water skiing written in the 1950's depicting a character named Joker from the Cypress Gardens show doing the same trick.
     
  10. tj309

    tj309 Composite Specialist

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    We did have a Tournament 18 and also a Nautique. The guy with the hi mom skiis must have been from Minaqua because I don't remember that from our show.
     

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